This morning on Twitter thekyleguy sent out a tweet about this unfortunate event. What do you think? As you read through the post do you agree with the ministry’s decision? Read the comments from other educational bloggers around the world as they discuss the decision.
Other educational bloggers are discussing this event. Read this blog for more reaction.
Order for Closure
This blog has been disabled in compliance with DECS wishes (Department of Education and Children Services – South Australia)
It seems that this blog in particular is being investigated regarding risk and management issues. What procedures should be taken for the use/non-use of blogs to enhance student learning will be considered.
Please note … I am greatly comforted by the support from many of my parents/care-givers, the staff & leadership at school and the Learning Technologies team at ‘headquarters’.
I absolutely value the support and wisdom given to me from my online global social networks – and isn’t that what the whole thing is all about?
Best of all are the kids .. without their enthusiasm, love for blogging and collaboration … well this blog would never have existed .. and now, would not be closed.
Please Note … Let’s embrace this as an opportunity to promote the value of blogs and online learning generally. There is no benefit in looking for blame here, there is enormous value and potential in celebrating our voices.
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- 1. murcha – March 14, 2008
- Pardon? Is this for real! Come to Victoria then and bring the students with you. Did they checkout the clustr map and see the authentic audience that your students have? It was wonderful to see them blogging and to see the support given to you worldwide. Let me know if there is anything that I can do to help!!
- 2. dogtrax – March 14, 2008
- WowThe benefits of blogging are many and varied, including: writing for an authentic audience, exploring other points of views, composing in different modes and medium, researching and evaluating information and integrating student interest in the classroom.
I am sure the list goes on and on.
I thought your concept of a mentor program was fantastic and it seemed as if you had tapped into something powerful in the world, too.
I hope you can reverse the order (is that possible?)
Perhaps: remove pictures and create pseudonyms and re-launch?
- 3. Allison Miller – March 14, 2008
- This is a very interesting and distressing situation!I would like to know what evidence or data the ‘risk management’ dept of DECS is using when they have come to their decision to ’shut down’ this site.
Al is offering his students the opportunity to interact and learn from a global network of people. He is offering his students the means to learn in a ’safe’ environment of how to operate in an interactive online environment.
Doesn’t DECS have an ethical responsibility to help their students to develop the skills they require to operate in the 21st century through collaborative spaces such as blogs, wikis, and social networking sites.
Where will these students learn the skills to safely operate in an online environment?
The internet offers an opportunity for students to network and learn beyond their locality and time zone through social networking. To date, our young people have been using the internet to connect with others, with little or no guidance from their parents or teachers.
However, educational institutes have the opportunity to help ‘guide’ their students through the ‘unchartered waters’ of online social networking through spaces such as what Al is developing with his students.
He has been open and upfront with his students, parents, colleagues, authorities, and online networks. The people who who have offered their assistance to ‘mentor’ his students are people who have the utmost respect of the online community. People who model appropriate online social behaviour, and are ‘paving the way’ for others in how to share and mentor others online.
I believe the decision to shut down this site is very narrow minded and the decision has been based on a very limited and sensationalised view of what an online environment can offer to young people.
Young people are no more at threat online than they are in the ‘real world’. The skills required to understand ’stranger danger’ apply to an online environment.
Allowing Al Upton’s students to learn in an online environment will allow these students to apply their ’stranger danger’ skills in a safe and ‘controlled’ environment.
Please do not deny these students the opportunity to learn in a rich, valuable and safe environment, to develop the skills they will need to be effective individuals in the 21st century.
- 4. Kate Olson – March 14, 2008
- Al -I was so upset when I saw Sue Waters tweet about this this morning – I’m waiting for her post after her Skype session today to perhaps learn more about how other Aussie edubloggers are reacting……I hope to find out details of this that will help all other educators using blogs with our students. Keep us posted, Al.
- 5. Jo McLeay – March 14, 2008
- Al, I am so surprised as I know how much blogging helps students learning. It is practice in writing, it is practice in critical reading and in collaboration. Students need to learn in a safe place and school is such a place. Teachers who can mentor students and make positive comments on the student writing help them know that they have a real audience. It helps motivate students. This seems to be a backward step.
- 6. Frank’s Blog – March 14, 2008
- These are both confusing and enlightening times. While trying myself to get similar projects started here where I am, I am now rethinking approach and process and politics. Very disappointed that some have to be those that increase awareness through difficult times as you are experiencing now. But, I hope as we move forward, that education overall will be better and all will not be in vain. No. not hope … I am sure of it! Good luck with these changes and redefining moments in educational history. The 21st Century certainly has given us much to think about.
- 7. Drew Buddie – March 14, 2008
- Al, I am absolutely gobsmacked at the decision to stop this amazing initiative. I can understand the need to ensure that young people need to be safe online, but why on earth there is a problem with blog comments that are left on a page, and therefore TRANSPARENT, is utterly beyond me. Shame on the bureaucratic nincompoop that made this decision.And if it doesn’t sound sad to say it, It’s the miniLegends themselves I feel sorry for. This is a story that could go global (and if *I* have anything to do with it, it will)!
- 8. Robin Ellis – March 14, 2008
- I was very sorry to see the message above, I have been using the mini legends as an example for my administrators and teachers in our conversations regarding the wonderful opportunities blogging provides for students to reach beyond the walls of their classrooms. All students need to learn how to navigate the online world safely, and what better models than those who use the same world in their own practice and themselvs model appropriate behavior? I would hope this decision to remove the blog will be reconsidered and you allow the students to continue developing the skills which will help to shape their future.
- 9. Chris – March 15, 2008
- http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2008/03/13/study-encourages-a-less-hyped-view-of-social-networking-risks/Nuff said.
- 10. Corrie Bergeron – March 15, 2008
- So a few parents are concerned about a potential threat to their kids from people who live on the OTHER SIDE OF THE PLANET!?!
- 11. gkat – March 15, 2008
- Wondering… (sorry if this information was already collected Al but) would it have made a difference or would parents feel more safe if the educator-mentors had sent “proof/validation” of their employment as educators? (as they do e.g. in Quest Atlantis?), Such a shame for your students.
- 12. Kathryn Greenhill – March 15, 2008
- I wish that my two boys were in Al Upton’s class and had an opportunity to be part of a blogging programme like this. They need to learn how to navigate the ‘net safely. They need to understand how to safely have conversations with people from around the world.They need to understand how to present themselves online, including how to safely use their own voice and identity. I want them to experiment with their online identity in a safe environment where they are supported. I don’t want them to go underground and experiment by themselves with no guidance from someone who understands the online environment.
My kids have been reading the Minilegends’ blogs and love to see what the kids are doing. They are encouraged to learn about what the other kids are learning.
As a parent and an educator I use Al’s classroom blog as a Best Practice model for classroom blogging. I have shared the site with other parents and educators.
To not continue with this, the Minilegends miss out on learning, their parents miss out on learning about the internet along with their kids, other kids miss out on learning from the Minilegends and a pioneering Best Practice example is lost to us.
- 13. susant – March 15, 2008
- I too am flabbergasted by the closure of this blog, and fail to see how comments by educators world wide could be seen as a potential danger.I am also reminded of a blog post by Dean Shareski “Why Privacy is Moot Point” http://ideasandthoughts.org/2007/01/04/why-privacy-is-moot-point/ – Shareski points out that newspapers regularly publish children’s photos and names without parents’ permission.
- 14. Nancy White – March 15, 2008
- It is my belief that working WITH kids to help them find their own, safe path in the digital world involved guided LIVING in that digital world with the support of teachers, parents and yes, other people out in the world. By avoiding this real experience, I believe children are at greater risk.I understand and respect academic organizations’ concerns about risk and risk management. The problem is, our participation in the world does not stop at the school door. We should not try and legislate as if it does.
Further, children today must have strong digital skills – and that includes social skills – to survive in the job market. I consult with organizations about how they can work/collaborate online and one of the key skills they are now realizing they need to hire and cultivate is online community and social network skills, the ability to write FOR and ON the web, and the social intelligence of how to do this wisely and effectively.
Al, you have my digital support from afar. Please send my best wishes and encouragement to the Mini Legends who have, so far, taught many of us adults so much.
Hm, that makes me realize. This is as much about the world learning from the kids as the other way around. ….
- 15. Tim Davies – March 15, 2008
- Hey AlAll arguments about whether or not blogging is positive for young people’s learning aside (I believe it is) – it strikes me that the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child (widest internationally agreed treaty, signed by Australia) speaks to this situation.
I’ve blogged on it over here: http://www.timdavies.org.uk/2008/03/14/article-13-and-minilegends but broadly – Article 13 states:
“The child shall have the right to freedom of expression; this right shall include freedom to seek, receive and impart information and ideas of all kinds, regardless of frontiers, either orally, in writing or in print, in the form of art, or through any other media of the child’s choice.”
That appears to pretty well describe what the miniLegends were up to. And it is articulated as a specific /right/ of all under 18s. Taking action to limit the right should require some serious proof that other protection rights and concerns substantively trump it….
- 16. Michele Martin – March 15, 2008
- Al, check out this link–it’s to a study debunking the cyber-stalking myths. Your kids are in greater danger in the “real world” than they are online!http://tinyurl.com/3xp5z4
- 17. russel – March 15, 2008
- Well, I can’t add any content to what has already been said but I can add the weight of another voice in agreement.
Thankyou Al for being in the front line here. I have come close to being shutdown within the last twelve months by conservative forces in my own own local evnironment and I remember the pain with discomfort.
I trust that the conservative elements in the department that have made this decision will soon feel the full force of the educational necessity to allow kids to learn safe online behaviour in the safe environment of school. They can only keep their heads in the sand for so long. I wonder if they know what their own kids are doing right now? I wonder when they last spoke with their own kids about the actual life that they live… a lot of it online… in all likelihood.
Its not the end mate… its just the beginning of another interesting journey. Be of good cheer. The truth will win out.
- 18. Chris Harbeck – March 15, 2008
- Al Whatever support you need from your network I will try to help. It is so short sighted of the “powers that be” need to have the big stick and shut down powerful educational thinking. It really is a shame that a visionary like yourself and your students are being stifled.Kids that do not have a positive exposure to the web and are not taught how to be informed web citizens will be ignorant to dangers in the future.
Good luck with your fight.
- 19. Alan Levine – March 15, 2008
- Al- I am so disappointed to hear of this (word just got to me via twitter). You had created a model project and handled the concerns in the best way possible.For some government authority to override the wishes and permissions granted by the parents is unfair to say the least and perhaps leaning towards totalitarian. Who is more responsible and gets to make decisions for Australian children- the government or the parent?
If it were me, I might have shied from using the kids photos, but as they are identified only by first name, I fail to see the dire risk.
If there is anything we can do to protest, petition, complain, just shout out.
- 20. indigo196 – March 15, 2008
- I will not say that the board is wrong… safety is a concern.Two options exist:
1. Move this project to a ‘closed’ model in which students can interact, but ’stranger danger’ can not see the site.
2. Ensure that students DO NOT expose personal information on the site that would enable ’stranger danger’ to target them.
I have no visited here before so I am not making a claim that this site did not safeguard the children, but I do understand the concern that parents and administrators have.
- 21. Kimberly Brown – March 15, 2008
- Oh my. Another group of administrators who don’t get it! It’s time to move with the times and the value of connected learning. So sorry about this.Kimberly Brown
Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada